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		<title>Simplish version 2.1.5</title>
		<link>http://simplish.pomfolio.com/dev/2009/02/05/simplish-215/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 06:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Simplish version 2.1.5. Leaner, cleaner, more complete support for WordPress 2.7.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simplish 2.1.5 spruces up support for WordPress version 2.7 features, and is <strong>only compatible with WordPress versions ≥ 2.7</strong>. The changes are focused on complete support for features, removing compatibility code for older WordPress versions, and fixing a few bugs.</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://codex.wordpress.org/Migrating_Plugins_and_Themes_to_2.7#Post_Classes">Auto-generated post classes</a> (and &#8220;sticky&#8221; post support): Use <code>post_class()</code> everywhere but the page template</li>
<li>Fix a dangling <code>&lt;/a&gt;</code> that slipped into the 2.1.4 release (validation)</li>
<li>Fix excess vertical spacing in content area <code>ol</code> / <code>ul</code> <code>li</code> elements (thanks Demetris @ <a href="http://op111.net">op111.net</a>)</li>
<li>Eliminate some redundant or over-specified CSS rules for <code>ol</code> / <code>ul</code> <code>li</code> elements</li>
<li>Switch to new table styling, derived from Gesso, and eliminate code adopted from Blueprint. Remove Blueprint license file and <code>NOTICE</code> note.</li>
<li>Use new <code>wp_logout_url()</code> in sidebar logout link</li>
<li>Replace manual includes with new <code>get_search_form()</code></li>
<li>Remove the <code>ocomments.php</code> file, and much compatibility code from <code>functions.php</code> (removes support for wp &lt; 2.7)</li>
<li>Replace <code>wp_list_pages()</code> calls with new <code>wp_page_menu()</code> to allow in-function &#8220;Home&#8221; link</li>
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<p><a href="http://labs.utopian.net/wordpress/theme/simplish/simplish-2.1.5.tgz">Download Simplish version 2.1.5 here</a>, or see it soon <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/simplish">in the WordPress themes directory</a>.</p>
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		<title>Threaded Comments Live</title>
		<link>http://simplish.pomfolio.com/dev/2009/02/01/threaded-comments-live/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>utopian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Threaded comments come to Labs/blogs with WordPress-mu version 2.7.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the version bump of the Labs/blogs WordPress-µ software to 2.7, we have threaded comments running live here with Simplish 2.1.4, obviating the (regular WordPress) site that had served that demo.</p>
<p>A version 2.1.5 of Simplish will be along soon that eliminates the WordPress version 2.6 compatibility code, and is compatible only with WordPress ≥2.7.</p>
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		<title>Simplish version 2.1.4</title>
		<link>http://simplish.pomfolio.com/dev/2008/12/12/simplish-214/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 04:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Simplish version 2.1.4 adds support for WordPress 2.7.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simplish 2.1.4 is an update to support WordPress 2.7, including the new threaded comments feature.</p>
<ul>
<li>Support WordPress 2.7&#8242;s threaded comments.<sup>1</sup></li>
<li>Add compatibility comments template for WordPress ≤ 2.6.5.</li>
<li>Link to comments goes to heading of comments list (instead of to first comment in list).</li>
<li>Fix silly <code>feed://</code> typo in (default) sidebar syndication links (thanks <a href="http://eighty4.se">eighty4.se</a>).</li>
<li>Fix &#8220;comments&#8221; <code>id</code> and <code>class</code> to not have same name (introduce &#8220;commentslist&#8221;).</li>
<li>Use smaller 32&#215;32 gravatar for comment author.</li>
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<p><a href="http://labs.utopian.net/wordpress/theme/simplish/simplish-2.1.4.tgz">Download Simplish version 2.1.4 here</a>, or see it soon <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/simplish">in the WordPress themes directory</a>.</p>
<p><sup><em>1</em></sup><em> &#8211; Threaded comment support has not yet been added to </em><a href="http://mu.wordpress.org"><em>WordPress-mu</em></a><em>, the software this blog and the </em><a href="http://labs.utopian.net/blogs/simplish-demo/"><em>Simplish Demo</em></a><em> run atop. Until it is, you can </em><a href="http://labs.utopian.net/who/josh/wp-svn/?p=1#comments-heading"><em>check out Simplish&#8217;s rendition of threaded comments at a test site</em></a><em>.</em></p>
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		<title>Threadbare no longer (Simplish 2.1.4RC)</title>
		<link>http://simplish.pomfolio.com/dev/2008/11/27/threadbare-no-longer-simplish-214rc/</link>
		<comments>http://simplish.pomfolio.com/dev/2008/11/27/threadbare-no-longer-simplish-214rc/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A pre-release candidate with initial threaded comments support ahead of WordPress 2.7. For testing purposes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As mentioned in comments on <a href="http://labs.utopian.net/blogs/simplish/dev/2008/11/15/not-about-javascript/">my original mild objection</a>, I&#8217;ve been convinced that threaded discussions, new in the upcoming WordPress version 2.7, are a good value at the price. So today I slapped support for the feature into Simplish. This version of the theme should be considered &#8220;beta&#8221; quality, just like the new WordPress features on which it&#8217;s built. Both are subject to change before final release.</p>
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<dt>Demo</dt>
<dd><a href="http://labs.utopian.net/who/josh/wp-svn/?p=1">http://labs.utopian.net/who/josh/wp-svn/?p=1</a></dd>
<dt>Code</dt>
<dd><a title="Download Simplish Test Version" href="http://labs.utopian.net/wordpress/theme/simplish/simplish-2.1.4RC.tgz">simplish-2.1.4RC.tgz</a></dd>
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<p>The demo shows a &#8220;jacob&#8217;s ladder&#8221; style for the comments/replies layout, where both left and right margins are indented per-thread-level. It&#8217;s an (experimental) attempt to ease the &#8220;comment chaos&#8221; feeling a deeply-threaded discussion can give.</p>
<p>A special thanks to <a href="http://ottodestruct.com">Otto</a> for his comments and his indispensable <a href="http://ottodestruct.com/blog/2008/09/29/wordpress-27-comments-enhancements/">threaded comments getting-started doc</a>.<br />
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<h4>Notes</h4>
<p>For the theme, threaded comments support kicks off in <code>functions.php</code>: a function <code>ocomments()</code> checks if comment threading is available in your WordPress install (i.e., if <code>wp_list_comments()</code> exists; e.g., if it is running on version 2.7 or greater). If not, the theme loads the 2.6-compatible &#8220;old&#8221; comments template (<code>ocomments.php</code>), and comments look and work with no changes from previous versions. If your WordPress supports threading, the theme loads the new threaded comments template.</p>
<p>From there control of the feature moves to <code>header.php</code>. Simplish loads the comment thread JavaScript only when needed: only if threaded comments are enabled in wp-admin, and then only on single post views. The script is not loaded on multiple- and archive pages where comments are not displayed.</p>
<p>In this execution path, <code>single.php</code> runs next, and that script includes the <code>comments.php</code> comments template. <strong>If</strong> there are comments on the post, <code>comments.php</code> eventually calls <code>wp_list_comments()</code> to echo the comments loop, producing the threaded result.</p>
<p>The JavaScript enqueued previously by <code>header.php</code> powers the <span class="caps">AJAX</span>-ified reply buttons and comment form. (Comment threading will work without this client-side script, but less smoothly.)</p>
<h4>Bugs</h4>
<p>There may be a few issues with paging threaded comments and reversing order from ascending to descending that can break &#8220;pretty&#8221; permalinks, as the page number is not always passed into links on comments page one. This issue, if it&#8217;s not just ephemera, appears to be a bug in <code>wp_list_comments()</code> and most easily patched there. <a href="http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/8583">[Conners 2008-12-12]</a></p>
<p><code>Wp_list_comments()</code> produces some hCard classes in its comment loop output, but overall, comment author hCards and comment hAtom are less complete in this testing version than in previous versions of Simplish. To re-add the additional microformat stuff, we&#8217;ll filter <code>wp_list_comments()</code>, but this work isn&#8217;t started yet.</p>
<p>One place you won&#8217;t see threaded comments for a while is here at the Simplish site/blog, nor at the <a href="http://labs.utopian.net/blogs/simplish-demo/">&#8220;official&#8221; Simplish Demo</a>. Both are hosted on our <a href="http://mu.wordpress.org">WordPress-mu</a>-based <a href="http://labs.utopian.net/blogs/">Labs/Blogs</a> project on the stable version of the multi-blog WordPress software, and MU generally trails wp.org releases and features by a few weeks at least.</p>
<p>Simplish 2.1.4 is planned for final release in conjunction with WordPress version 2.7 &#8212; &#8220;real soon now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Happy [U.S.] Thanksgiving!</p>
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		<title>Not about JavaScript</title>
		<link>http://simplish.pomfolio.com/dev/2008/11/15/not-about-javascript/</link>
		<comments>http://simplish.pomfolio.com/dev/2008/11/15/not-about-javascript/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 03:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[To thread or not to thread - *in Simplish*.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a context completely unrelated to &#8220;threaded&#8221; discussion comments on blog posts, <a href="http://research.google.com/people/r/">Rob Pike</a> once wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Threads are like salt. I like salt, you like salt, we all like salt. But we eat more pasta than salt.</p></blockquote>
<p>Implementing (what will eventually be) WordPress 2.7&#8242;s new threaded comments is not difficult, and doing so yields a moderately useful new organization element: threading, or individual replies, similar to the presentation of discussion forums, many newsreaders, the Gmail message list, or the Twitter &#64;. <a href="http://ottodestruct.com/blog/2008/09/29/wordpress-27-comments-enhancements/">This post by Ottodestruct</a> has plenty of info to get you started against the latest subversion tip to get threaded comments working in your theme.</p>
<p><a href="http://labs.utopian.net/blogs/wplatformer/">Many themes are built with, even around, JavaScript</a>. If Simplish already loaded even one script, we&#8217;d certainly add the cool new threads. But Simplish is supposed to be simple, and it is supposed to be a <em>feature</em> that the theme loads no JavaScript in a default configuration.</p>
<p>I will probably link to a quick alpha Simplish with cut-and-paste test code for a threaded comments template shortly, but I&#8217;m interested in opinions right now.</p>
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